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[00:01:17] Hello everyone and welcome to KilaWat.com podcast about electric vehicles,

[00:01:20] renewable energy, autonomous driving and much much more.

[00:01:23] My name is Bodhi and I am your host and on today's episode I got a chance to sit down with

[00:01:29] Molinata Motiv CEO David Misery and VP of Marketing Jason Putnam.

[00:01:35] And we sat down to talk about commercial vehicles as it pertains to EVs.

[00:01:40] Before we start the interview, I should let you know that David is the person speaking

[00:01:45] on Mike and Jason, you'll hear him occasionally, he doesn't really chime in that much,

[00:01:50] he's off Mike. And with that let's go ahead and begin the interview.

[00:01:53] David, you are the chairman and CEO of Molinata Motiv and today we're going to talk about everything

[00:02:01] or maybe not everything. A lot of the things that Molin is doing in terms of electric vehicles,

[00:02:07] we're going to really hit hard the commercial vehicle side of things.

[00:02:10] Do you want to start off by just giving a history of Molinata Motiv and maybe just a little bit

[00:02:16] about yourself? Sure. So let's start with I spent a considerable amount of time in the

[00:02:27] entertainment industry and shifted, decided after a successful career that I wanted to try something

[00:02:36] different and always had a passion for vehicles still do. So decided to open up my own electric

[00:02:44] vehicle company and acquired various different assets that had spent a lot of money to try to get

[00:02:53] an electric vehicle into the market, co-ed us specifically back in 2011 and 12 and then Molin

[00:03:02] Motorcars and then consolidated that informed company called Molin Technologies which is

[00:03:08] primarily my vision for it was a technology company that happened to have an automotive component.

[00:03:14] And then spun out the automotive division and took that public as Molinata Motiv in 2000.

[00:03:25] I believe 21 was that right Jason 21? Correct. Yes, November of 2021 on NASDAQ Capital

[00:03:31] Markets and we're very proud of what we've accomplished. We got hit with COVID like everybody else

[00:03:40] and that was a very interesting time. And then you know the market decided to turn around for the EV

[00:03:47] Mark EV space during the current administration. So a lot of there's been a lot of volatility,

[00:03:56] not just in Molin but in the entire space as a whole. We wanted to be different and we wanted

[00:04:02] to do things that we felt would benefit the masses and we looked at where we felt we could be the

[00:04:11] most competitive. And so we went out to develop our commercial segment and we focused our tensions on

[00:04:22] the specifically the commercial space in class 1 and class 3. And so we're proud to say today

[00:04:29] that we are we are the first mover and we have the advantage in class 1 and class 3 in the commercial

[00:04:35] space. We're selling product. We fully homologated and certified our vehicles for sale in the US.

[00:04:42] Not a lot of guys can do that. We did that in a very short order. We acquired Alms,

[00:04:48] Electric Glass Mile, a lot of bankruptcy and got a real nice facility out of Mitchelwaka,

[00:04:55] Indiana that used to be the Hummer facility owned by GM. So we felt that we had the tools

[00:05:04] to scale to whatever capacity we wanted to and then we acquired a facility in Tuna,

[00:05:10] Camiscippy and then developed that out to be the home for commercial vehicle production for class

[00:05:16] 1 and class 3 where today we produce class 1 and class 3 vehicles and they're on the road being

[00:05:23] salt customers and we're excited about the things that we've done. We don't just have one vehicle,

[00:05:29] we have two vehicles that are fully homologated and available for sale in the US. So and no competition.

[00:05:36] So we got a wide open market where everybody else is struggling to compete at the consumer level.

[00:05:42] We have a wide open market for us so we're pretty excited about that.

[00:05:47] Can you just kind of break down the different classes because not everybody's going to be familiar

[00:05:52] and even I have to go back and look every time I talk about commercial EVs,

[00:05:56] where what type of vehicles fall in each class as far as commercial?

[00:06:01] Well real simple. So basically ours is a class 1 van, it's a high speed van, small little van

[00:06:09] you know used for last mile delivery, your typical you know similar to your Ford transits

[00:06:17] the gas version of those vehicles and then our class 3 is a 10,000 pound greater

[00:06:22] our greater vehicle which is you know a cab forward truck and you know you could configure those

[00:06:29] to do anything really you could put you know flat beds on them you could put boxes you know containers

[00:06:37] I mean the sky's the limit endless possibilities so the idea here is whatever your use cases

[00:06:44] you could have that vehicle sent to an upfitter and then they would upfit it with specific uses

[00:06:50] like for example if you were a utility and you wanted it for utility purposes your upfitter within

[00:06:55] kator that you know kator it to your use case so that lends the most amount of flexibility

[00:07:02] and we've been having a tremendous amount of success with it everybody seems to really like it

[00:07:07] it's doing real well for us so we're very excited about that class 1 also is small enough to

[00:07:14] maneuver in small areas and it's perfect for last mile delivery so if you're some type of transport

[00:07:23] carrier and you're you know dealing with any types of goods you're dealing with call it cold

[00:07:30] cold storage hot storage you're dealing with parts delivery package delivery using it for

[00:07:38] gardening you're using it for from a horticulture perspective it has endless possibilities it

[00:07:45] fills a void that Ford and GM left they left the class 1 space when obviously there was a push

[00:07:55] for electrification and the government is giving mandates on when companies are going to have to

[00:08:00] be fully compliant so rather than become compliant in those segments they decided to pull out

[00:08:08] which left it wide open for us we identified that and said well that's where we're going to go

[00:08:13] we knew that the segment generated hundreds of thousands of vehicles per year in sales previously

[00:08:20] for the ice vehicles so we figured even if we captured a small percentage of that from a

[00:08:26] electric perspective then that would be a very substantial number so that's the path we chose

[00:08:33] we're not out there trying to compete with guys in the consumer space I think that's a mess right

[00:08:39] now we want to stay away from it so that's kind of what we're doing and the last week we actually make

[00:08:46] a profit we make a margin on our growth profit margin on per vehicle sole so we're not it doesn't cost

[00:08:55] us $300,000 to sell a $60,000 vehicle so you know we actually make a gross profit margin per

[00:09:05] vehicle sole so I tell people any multiple of zero is always going to be zero so with us as we scale

[00:09:13] so do so does our margins so we're excited that not only do we have we're in the right space

[00:09:21] but we're making money per vehicle sold do you have numbers that you're willing to share on how many

[00:09:27] you sold to be to these units right about we've put out PRs I can refer you to public disclosures

[00:09:34] that we've made in the past we've shipped I think a total of Jason's $17 million worth of

[00:09:42] vehicles in the last a couple months yes nice you mentioned when you were talking about the company

[00:09:51] earlier that you wanted to have a tech company with an automotive component what are some of the

[00:09:57] core technologies that you're focused on for this we're developing battery technology I'm determined

[00:10:03] to bring solid state polymer to the forefront you know we started this a long time ago when we

[00:10:09] started it people didn't think it was legit about that how could a small company advance science

[00:10:16] well you know it doesn't take billions of dollars it takes knowledge and know how can't put

[00:10:21] up you can't put a price on knowledge and know how so over time you know we've done what we

[00:10:26] said we were going to do and we announced not too long ago I think in the last couple of weeks

[00:10:30] correct me Jason if I'm wrong we took the first solid state polymer sell end pack and put it into

[00:10:37] our classroom vehicle and we're out driving it around we started our testing how's that

[00:10:43] that's great that's a game danger can you tell me more about what what that means solid state and

[00:10:49] polymer well I mean it's typically right it's uh you know you you have a solid solid electrolyte so

[00:10:55] you know you have a cathode you have an anode and you have an electrolyte so you're talking about a

[00:11:00] solid electrolyte plus you're talking about you're not utilizing you know dangerous rare earth materials

[00:11:06] right you know you're you're not using the coal balls the magnesium's you know you're so you're

[00:11:12] using basically safe right basically what a solid state polymer is it's a polymer and you're not

[00:11:19] you know so you have a safe cell that won't ignite and catch on fire and it's almost indestructible

[00:11:26] and then when it comes time to dispose of it it's not considered dangerous good so it's easy

[00:11:31] to dispose of and when it gets near um and the life you could repurpose it into other areas that

[00:11:38] don't have the demands that vehicles have our commercial vehicles have so there's it opens up

[00:11:43] the possibilities for second life use but what's most exciting about it is the safety aspect of it

[00:11:49] and the fact that it emigregation right so if you take a standard lithium iron phosphate

[00:11:55] cell which everybody uses and you look at that chemistry and you look at degradation

[00:12:00] degradation over like let's say 5,000 cycles it looks like it goes right off of a cliff right

[00:12:06] you take ours a solid state polymer sound we've we've shown this over so many cycles call it

[00:12:11] over 10,000 15,000 cycles it's just a straight line meaning there's no degradation no loss

[00:12:18] so not only do you get longer life you get more power it's safe you can you could you could take a

[00:12:25] gun and blow a hole through it and it's gonna work you can take the torch you could take a torch

[00:12:32] and literally put it right up to the cell and burn a hole through it it's not going to ignite

[00:12:38] you don't have the the issues that you have with conventional chemistry right the reason why

[00:12:42] you have issues with conventional chemistries you have flammable electrolytes and you have very

[00:12:48] dangerous for example magnesium I mean just take magnesium on its own I mean that thing will light

[00:12:54] up real quick so the point I'm trying to make here is just what you're using in your chemistry

[00:12:59] do you want to talk about the the chemistry and form factor of this is it blade does it sell

[00:13:04] what were we doing so we use the pouch and these are you know ray-run series and currently per

[00:13:15] kilowatt hour I believe we're running somewhere around 80 the equivalent of 80 kilowatt hours versus

[00:13:22] 42 kilowatt hours in the conventional chemistry so the form factors your standard you know metal

[00:13:32] housing built to prevent water intrusion you know it has to be sturdy enough to protect against

[00:13:43] crash so you know there's nothing special about the form factor what I call the enclosure it's your

[00:13:51] standard metal enclosure what's important what's inside the enclosure right the idea is what you

[00:13:57] can put inside in that enclosure to give you the greatest amount of potential in the form of energy

[00:14:03] that kind of leads me to my next question and kind of your the company's aspirations in terms of

[00:14:10] EV charging because I know you're doing a lot with commercial vehicles I would imagine

[00:14:17] you're working with fleets do you have anything to offer fleets in terms of EV charging or is that

[00:14:25] go through a third party well we use a third party but we also have a very sophisticated telemetric

[00:14:32] system that allows these fleets to track their vehicles and monitor them we're trying to incorporate

[00:14:40] sophisticated our intelligent charging we we own our own battery pack facility I if you

[00:14:48] follow our public announcements we announced a few months ago that we opened up our Fullerton maybe

[00:14:55] six months ago we opened up our Fullerton California battery facility where we do now pack

[00:15:02] production so we're also now working on taking chemistry so we're going to go from the cell to

[00:15:08] the pack right to the vehicle and then we're using sophisticated technology to progress to other

[00:15:16] form factors for other types of industries so again it becomes a vertical profit center for us it's

[00:15:22] our mall and advanced energy operations in Fullerton California we acquired the Romeo power assets

[00:15:30] and we took those with the assets that we had our Monroeville mall and energy facility consolidated

[00:15:37] those and are now working towards removing the dependency of foreign entities as it relates to

[00:15:46] packs so what I don't want to have happen is that let's say in the near future or let's say something

[00:15:52] happens on a global level and it prohibits American companies from being able to bring in foreign

[00:16:00] battery packs then basically they're out of business unless they are able to adjust and produce

[00:16:05] some here we've taken that initiative now today to produce packs here in America and we're also

[00:16:13] looking at producing cells on top of packs so we go from the cell to the pack to the vehicle and

[00:16:18] then we can configure into other form factors for other industries I can't get into too many specifics

[00:16:24] because these are and this is information that hasn't already been publicly disclosed what I'm

[00:16:29] going over with are all related to PRs that have been put out related to our battery operations

[00:16:37] and our aspirations as it relates to advancing science as it relates to battery and electrification.

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[00:18:53] okay and then we were talking a little bit offline about the power truck which I think is

[00:18:58] really interesting uh can you want to talk about that for a second yeah sure i love to tell you

[00:19:04] all that came about so we decided we were going to take our vehicles on tour and we started that

[00:19:11] about a year ago and the biggest problem we experienced was charging how the hell are we going

[00:19:17] to charge them quick enough to allow enough people to be able to experience you know these vehicles

[00:19:23] and our group came up with the great idea we developed and commissioned a vehicle that we

[00:19:30] called power up and this vehicle is a mobile charging platform that offers level two and

[00:19:37] level three DC fast charge so basically we could Jason how many ports for level two

[00:19:46] vehicle does so two level i'm sorry four level two charge ports that will do roughly around 25

[00:19:53] kilowatts each and then two DC fast chargers that will do you can do one individual one individual

[00:20:00] vehicle up to a hundred and David welcome to the show on a single charge or you can do two simultaneously

[00:20:07] at roughly 50 to 60 kilowatts so it's all dependent on what you know what's in the vehicle already

[00:20:14] what charge status is in the vehicle capacity is there and but i've seen the vehicle go up with two

[00:20:20] vehicles up to around 60 kilowatts charging two vehicles at once on DC fast charging so the nice

[00:20:28] thing about it think about this so we wanted to be able to charge a portfolio of vehicles as

[00:20:35] fast as we could so we could get customers in the vehicles and on the track so we came up with a

[00:20:42] solution that brought the power to the vehicle not you know having to take the vehicle to the power

[00:20:49] well it was a hit we started to get a tremendous amount of response people asking us how do they

[00:20:55] get one how do we got municipalities we got i mean businesses individuals everybody under the sun

[00:21:01] asking about how can they get one so we thought wow we something happened here and with that

[00:21:08] Jason came to me and said hey some of the people want to know would we be willing to partner up

[00:21:14] with them and lease them the power of vehicles and let them go out there and form a national network

[00:21:20] of service providers to do our emergency response for all of the electric vehicles every day that

[00:21:26] run out of charge i'd have to get towed to wherever that they can come out and give them an immediate

[00:21:32] fast charge because we have the capability to deliver it on demand so Jason you want to elaborate a

[00:21:38] little bit about how this idea came about yeah exactly that it was our own our own internal use case

[00:21:45] that we had which again we went out to over the last two years we've done close to 30 locations

[00:21:50] mostly large stadium parking lots this last time around in 2023 we did close to 15 national

[00:21:59] race tracks and in all those cases there's really not a solution in place for fast charging so

[00:22:09] yeah the vehicle is completely capable this last time we went out we had 12 vehicles that we

[00:22:14] charged nonstop over the course of three days and we used that one power of mobile charging

[00:22:20] vehicle to satisfy the charging needs for all of our vehicles so the use case moving forward it was

[00:22:26] our internal use case that we had and now from that we found that there is a pretty strong business

[00:22:30] case for mobile for a mobile charging solution out of the market and that's something that we're

[00:22:35] actively working on right let's talk I want to get to your commercial efforts but let's talk a

[00:22:40] little bit about your passenger car your your crossover EV5 yeah so that's my baby it's what I

[00:22:50] it was my dream and all the things that I wanted to do with that car now have come to fruition

[00:22:57] what I'm doing with the vehicle because of how the consumer space has been reacting I want to

[00:23:02] mitigate the cost related to getting a consumer vehicle into the marketplace and I'm going to

[00:23:08] built this vehicle for low volume production and I'm going to have it come out in Europe in 2025

[00:23:15] first right it'll be the mall in 5 RS the high performance vehicle with the center locking wheels

[00:23:20] carbon ceramic rotors 0 to 60 and you know 1.9 seconds 200 miles an hour plus and top speed all

[00:23:28] of the goodies we debuted that at CES that vehicle is going to become available for sale in Europe

[00:23:34] and then we'll see how the market reacts and we'll see how the US is doing from a consumer

[00:23:39] perspective in a couple of years and if the stars all line up will bring it to the US otherwise

[00:23:44] we're going to sell it in Europe under a low volume numbers when I say low volume I mean 500 units

[00:23:53] and we're selling them Jason what's the price point on these?

[00:23:58] not completely set just yet but we are looking around $350,000 in SRP so you are looking at a

[00:24:06] high performance hyper car yeah I mean it'll be I don't know if you saw the car at CES I mean

[00:24:13] the car is even it's beautiful it's like it's like nothing you've ever seen it's all carbon fiber

[00:24:22] forged carbon carbon bucket seats you know everything about being light and being fast

[00:24:30] and I mean it's and it looks good so we know it's a hit people love it and people have put big

[00:24:36] reservations in for it we're just going to play it safe because we don't want to spend a lot of

[00:24:41] money right now here in the US what we want to do is focus on commercial because we know that we

[00:24:48] have you know first advantage over everybody else get that market situated and the same token

[00:24:54] we don't want to lose sight of what we built with the mall in 5 RS and we want to get that out into

[00:24:59] Europe let that vehicle create interest mitigate costs be very frugal show that it's a hit that people

[00:25:06] want it let that car work its way back to the US and become a hit by demand so the the

[00:25:13] the mulland 5 RS just for clarity here that's the high performance that is the high performance vehicle

[00:25:20] we debuted at CES and the mulland 5 is the 50 around $55,000 MSRP that's right affordable version

[00:25:31] yeah yeah you know look I think that the more affordable version right now in my opinion is

[00:25:39] looking at the market and looking at the segment right now I don't want to get caught up in

[00:25:45] the in that race I think that they're all gonna they're all in a race to zero so when you get

[00:25:52] the majors like Ford and GM pulling out you know that that should tell you something and it

[00:25:58] were very fortunate that we're in a space we gambled correctly we went after commercial and nobody

[00:26:03] else you know thought that it you know it made sense and it made a lot of sense because now we're

[00:26:08] the only game in town and we're capitalizing on that so we're gonna go where we've where we

[00:26:14] it's all risk mitigation we want to we want to hedge and you know against any potential downside

[00:26:21] and we want to mitigate the anticipation so we want to we want to be very smart here in a world

[00:26:28] where right now there's a lot of uncertainty how we operate our business is going to be predicated

[00:26:35] on the market meaning how the consumers look at the consumer space how they look at the commercial

[00:26:41] space right now they're really receiving us extremely well on the commercial side yeah let's

[00:26:47] get to the commercial space I was really interested to see that you bought a majority stake in

[00:26:53] Bollinger that's right and not just the commercial side it's talking to Jason about this a little

[00:26:58] bit earlier but like the the entire company so you have a majority stake in the commercial and

[00:27:02] the just like the passenger I guess they're more of marketing themselves as a work truck or a

[00:27:09] farm truck but why Bollinger what was it about Bollinger that made you think oh this is a company we

[00:27:16] got to pick up honestly I believe they're going to be a generational company and my vision is

[00:27:22] proving to to become reality we're at we're in Indiana right now one of the biggest truck shows

[00:27:30] in America and they're doing extremely well taking orders like crazy for their product

[00:27:35] they got an amazing class 4 through 6 and they got a B1 and B2 to me my focus and goal is you

[00:27:44] call it a farm vehicle I knew that before I bought the company I knew that the army was looking at

[00:27:50] their product I mean the military you know it's fully documented you go to YouTube and you can see

[00:27:54] it I knew that this could be the successor to the H1 which has been in service for God knows 30

[00:28:01] plus years I felt that what was what was happening there at Bollinger was special from the commercial

[00:28:08] site and I call it the military site I'm not looking at it as a farm truck I'm looking at it is one

[00:28:14] I'm I have one focus military right government use so outside of commercial B4 through B6 by the

[00:28:23] way they're B4 through 6 is an amazing product we're going to see that real soon this year

[00:28:30] they're taking orders they're having success with it it is to me the Mercedes Benz

[00:28:36] of the electric truck business I think that they have that quality and that integrity

[00:28:42] that vehicle is made here in Michigan so I'm excited about Bollinger why about Bollinger because

[00:28:49] I believe Bollinger is going to be a very special generational type company I believe in Robert Bollinger

[00:28:56] he's a great executive I believe in the people there and I felt it made sense so we we purchased

[00:29:02] controlling interest in it for sure what kind of technology did Bollinger have that you were able to

[00:29:07] kind of roll into some of the other things you were doing well so let's just talk about the B1 and B2

[00:29:16] they're their portal hubs they're I mean you talk about ability to climb not only climb like an H1

[00:29:24] but they can go really fast and it has a massive amount of torque and the ability to use lightweight

[00:29:30] armory on it to be able to have that in the battlefield and not be like the H1 where they had to take

[00:29:36] big gigantic pieces of steel and weld them to the bottom of H1 because they found out

[00:29:42] on these improvised devices they were blowing up and cutting these vehicles in half you know

[00:29:47] they learned that during the Gulf War so now that you know they're in a position to be able to

[00:29:53] um you know learn from this and incorporate a lot of that technology to lightweight alloys

[00:29:59] apply to the B1 and B2 and if anybody doesn't know the B1 is like the pickup truck and a B2 is more

[00:30:05] like an SUV to me it looks like a land rover but I could see the comparison to like old like

[00:30:12] what's a class three non-fantastic land rovers to be clear the B1 and B2 are class three trucks

[00:30:18] so that should tell you all you need to know and the factory that we purchased from general

[00:30:24] you know the factory that was the GM facility that built the H2 built a class three vehicle so it's

[00:30:30] primed for the B1, B2 it literally the paint shop everything is set up for a class three vehicle

[00:30:38] and our Bollinger B1 and B2 are class three vehicles I thought it was like a marriage

[00:30:42] marriage made in heaven nice nice uh okay so we've talked a little bit about Bollinger I just want

[00:30:48] I got two more questions for you real quick I don't talk about uh commercial vehicles all that

[00:30:53] often on the show so what what are some of the challenges when it comes to producing a commercial

[00:30:59] vehicle for fleets especially when it comes to EVs I know I've talked to somebody from Cox Automotive

[00:31:04] and we talked about the challenges of charging so I think the audience is pretty familiar with that

[00:31:09] but what are what are these folks looking at in terms of like they're looking at it from dollars

[00:31:13] and cents standpoint not from how great the car looks or the vehicle looks they're looking at it

[00:31:18] how how is this going to save me money in the long run what are some of the challenges you have to

[00:31:24] overcome to sell these vehicles to the fleets well when you're new to the market um you know

[00:31:30] you got to you got to overcome the you know the risk that a lot of these well established

[00:31:36] organizations don't want to get in bed with a company that if they feel won't be there to support

[00:31:43] the vehicle so service also you know they how you know how do they know if the vehicle is going to

[00:31:51] perform as stated right until you know you get it in your possession do you want to be the first

[00:31:56] guy to do that no one ever wants to be the first guy so that really the risks were you know

[00:32:01] the unknowns right it's not a vehicle that people have seen before so the toughest challenge was

[00:32:08] to get it into circulation once it got into circulation if people like it then word of mouth travels

[00:32:13] quickly and so now you know we have that you get a lot of we get a lot of people that that

[00:32:21] including the US government that are very interested in our product I mean that's public information

[00:32:27] everybody knows we've filed for mass transformation so I'm not telling you anything that nobody

[00:32:31] doesn't already know sure and I'm not trying to get any sort of gotcha or inside information this

[00:32:37] is a very friendly show um so this is my final question and we've touched on some of this a little bit

[00:32:45] over the interview but I really want to know where do you see Mollen going in the next two years

[00:32:49] and then what are the some of those challenges that you're gonna face in those two years

[00:32:53] then um I want Mollen to be the biggest commercial electric vehicle manufacturer on planet earth

[00:33:05] I want to be the 10,000 pound gorilla the challenges are going to be adoption

[00:33:11] the challenges are going to be how the world you know if we if everyone could play nice with

[00:33:17] each other meaning I'm an American company I built my products here in America I'm hoping that

[00:33:24] I'm gonna have issues outside America where I can't get my product to expand on a global level

[00:33:31] so I'm hoping that you know everyone plays nice in the next four years that there's massive

[00:33:37] adoption to our commercial vehicles and I believe that we'll be able to do something real special

[00:33:45] here and technology too we're not just progressing you know electric commercial trucks and vans

[00:33:52] we're progressing technology we're adapting technology to the vehicle so not just a solid state

[00:34:00] polymer pack or a cell but sophisticated over-the-air technology telecommunications AI self-learning

[00:34:11] battery management systems that learn you know these vehicles and learn the you know how these drivers

[00:34:18] for all of these big fleets operate things that help them become more efficient that help us

[00:34:23] be create a better product I think the sky's the limit for us thank you David thank you Jason

[00:34:30] everybody's talking about you thanks thanks buddy I want to thank David and Jason for coming on

[00:34:36] and chatting there's a lot of fun if you are interested in finding out more about what mullen is

[00:34:41] doing you can go to the website which is www.mullenusa.com I'll also put a link in the show notes

[00:34:49] all right everybody that is it for our show today if you want to email me you can do so

[00:34:53] bodie b-o-d-i-e at 918 digital dot com you can also find me on twitter at 918 digital hope you all

[00:35:01] have a wonderful weekend and I will talk to you next Tuesday

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